> So, if we need to send Mark a warning, here are the requests I'd make: > > * No crossposting > * Keep your thoughts about your private sex life to yourself > * Please refrain from using profanity
Marvin, We have warned him, on and off list. His replies imply he has never taken our warnings seriously. I know this will make you mad Marvin, but I am going to ask that the List owners make a ruling in the next 24 hours. A temporary ban or no ban, and we call it good. Someone has to assume a leadership role here. A temporary ban will not 'hurt' anyone measurably. There is so much focus on whether or not this group is a bunch of nazi's, or a group of libertarians in regards to Mark's rights to this list. Do we have democracy, oligarchy or a collectivist state for a type of government for the list. I think we are focusing on the wrong things here, and it needs to stop soon. I would point out that Mark is not actively engaged or apparently interested or even involved in these threads discussing Mark's right to be on the list. Why is there so much sympathy for someone who could really care less if he was an active member or not of this list. He does not participate. He adds half-mad rantings to the list. I do not consider him part of our group. You can engage him, he barely acknowledges we even exist. If you disagree, show me otherwise. The collective fear here is that we may be monsters if we ban someone from our idealistic list - that somehow we are not as 'enlightened' as we would like to think, if we cannot even tolerate one crank on the list. Someone has to decide, for as a group we will never get past that fear. There has to be trust in a leader sometimes in moments like these. I pledge to support Jeroen and Julia's decision on this matter. I hope everyone else will as well. This is a call for action. Let's see if we can truly stretch as a group here. All in favor, raise you hands. Chad Cooper > > As far as enforcement is concerned, I would expect us to show Mark the > same degree of latitude we have historically granted ourselves. (For > instance, we've never tried to ban anybody just for the > occasional use of > an expletive.) > > > Marvin Long > Austin, Texas > > There ain't no Devil; there's just God when he's drunk. > -- Tom Waits > >
