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From: "Richard Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: Culture and Banks [I made a bank shot to start all this]


> Andy said:
>
> > Can't say I've read any of his. Good starting books?
>
> I think that the best places to start reading his Culture books are _The
> Player of Games_ and _Use of Weapons_. Other people would argue for
> _Consider Phlebas_ but I think that's too long, incoherent and not very
> good on balance (it's the only Banks novel I've tried to read a second
> time and been unable to finish). My favourite of his non-sf books are
> _The Bridge_ and _Walking on Glass_ (which are both sf/fantasy
> flavoured) and _The Crow Road_ (which is a long, warm family saga).
>
> [The Culture's Grand Moral Debates]
>
> > Yeah, you mean the one which made me /lurk on here? :P
>
> They don't tend to run for longer than a few days, but while they're
> running they can get pretty intense. Although, now that I think about
> it, we haven't had one for a while. At the moment we seem to be talking
> about whether a strong EU is good or bad for the US and whether steel
> subsidies are a good thing.
>
> > Who's over there who's no longer here anyway?
>
> I'm not sure who's no longer here, but the people the Culture recruited
> from Brin-L include: Charlie Bell, Jean-Louis Couturier, Brad DeLong,
> Jon Gabriel, David Hobby, Adrian Hon, Ritu Ko, Jeffrey Miller, Rob
> Seeberger, Gord Sellar, and Evan Vetere. I'm sure I've missed some too.
> Kat Feete defected as well, but she doesn't seem to have had enough time
> for the list for a while.
>
> In contrast, I seem to be the only person who's visited Brin-L from the
> Culture and ended up staying.
>
I think Rik is hiding in here somewhere.

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