> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 01:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Culture and Banks [I made a bank shot to start all this]
> 
> 
> Andy said:
> 
> > Can't say I've read any of his. Good starting books?
> 
> I think that the best places to start reading his Culture 
> books are _The Player of Games_ and _Use of Weapons_. Other 
> people would argue for _Consider Phlebas_ but I think that's 
> too long, incoherent and not very good on balance (it's the 
> only Banks novel I've tried to read a second time and been 
> unable to finish). My favourite of his non-sf books are _The 
> Bridge_ and _Walking on Glass_ (which are both sf/fantasy
> flavoured) and _The Crow Road_ (which is a long, warm family saga).

Where would you put Wasp Factory in your list?  I managed to
beg/borrow/steal copies of Use of Weapons and Phlebas, and was
recommended Wasp Factory next (not specifically Culture, tho, iirc)

-j-

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