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From: "Andrew Crystall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: cellphones (L3)


> On 20 Jun 2002 at 11:16, Dan Minette wrote:
>
> > > It's not the heat. It's the effect on your chemistry.
> > >
> >
> > Are you suggesting that the energy in the individual microwave photons
> > are enough to affect the chemical bonds on a molecular level?  That is
> > certainly true with gamma or X-rays, that's why heating alone does not
> > explain radiation damage.  But microwave photons?
>
> *snickers*
>
> No, don't be silly plz.
> The effect is on reactions happening at the time.
>

Hmm, since I am a physicist, I tend to think of chemical reactions as
complex atomic physics.  So, I thought it is possible that there is an
second order effect of low level EM radiation that I'm not thinking about.
Thus, I asked a chemist, and, with the usual disclaimer of not being his
exact field, stated that he couldn't think of it either.  He referenced a
web site that discussed EM fields and the effect on chemical reactions, but
these were high power fields, and the effects were consistent with heating.

So, we've established its not a heating effect, and not an ionizing
radiation effect.  So, what is the effect?  Can you reference a source
other than the claims of damage to human cells that documents how low level
EM fields act to change the rate/nature of chemical reactions?  If it is
basic chemistry, and doesn't involve heating or ionizing radiation, then
surely there must be a straightforward chemical reference. (i.e. one that
doesn't involve biology).

I'll be going on vacation next week,  and I'll talk to my cousin who has a
PhD in chemistry.  Maybe he's heard of such things.  If he hasn't, then I'd
_really_ like to see that reference.

Dan M.

Dan M.

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