--- The Fool wrote:
> > From: Dan Minette 
> > 
> > From: "The Fool" > 
> > > For every useful concept they teach, they teach
> ten that are really
> bad.
> > > Frex "if you don't believe in god/jesus/whatever
> you will go to
> hell", or
> > > that genocide/murder are OK if god commands you
> to do it, or does it
> > > himself.  They also teach, that your descendants
> are guilty of crimes
> > > _you_ commit in perpetuity.  God can essentially
> commit acts of
> > > murder/genocide for what amounts to thought
> crimes, and can then
> forever
> > > after torture that person.
> > 
> > I'm guessing that you are relying on early Hebrew
> Scriptures for your
> > understanding of Judaism/Christianity.
> 
> Both.  I can back up my statements with scriptural
> references if
> necessary.
> 
<snippage>
> 
> The problem is a lot (most) of devout religious
> people believe that
> genesis is the absolute truth, And they believe in
> the ridiculous idiotic
> and unscientific flood, and they believe that god
> will come back and kill
> every single person who commits the thought crime of
> not believing in /
> worshipping god in the right way.

I think that <5% of the folks in my former church were
literalists/creationists; none of my current
church-going friends are literalists.  The Lutheran
(ELCA) Church acknowledges that the Jews are "Chosen"
and therefore not to be prosetelyzed (sp?); recently I
think the Catholic Church also quit trying to convert
Jews, for the same reason.  Western theological
thought has moved (albeit too slowly for some) toward
tolerance in the past 200 years, and will continue to
become more ecumenical in the future (else it will
stagnate and die).

All of my religious friends have friends who are
Jewish, Muslim, Hindu and/or Buddhist.  (And throw in
a few Wiccans for good measure, as well as
neo-Druids.)  None of them try to impose their views
on each other (although we do have some fun
discussions, especially after a glass or three of
wine...).

Debbi
who refuses to be smoothed to fit into someone's box
o' labels 


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