I am sending my reply to the Brin-L simply because I am operating under the assumption that Erik sent a copy of a list post to me from a different email address because I said that I had killfiled him. If this was a private message, I appologize to Erik and the other list members bringing this up in public, but I have not recieved the digest yet to see if he posted it publically and don't want to postpone replying.
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 10:49:49PM -0600, Michael Harney wrote: > > > Erik, I know that easydns is your DNS provider for e-mail forwarding, > > it took me a whole 2 minutes to find out. > > Looks like you need to spend some more minutes. EasyDNS is my DNS > provider. They don't touch my email. Wrong, the very nature of DNS means that they do effect your email... they forward it to the proper server. Without DNS records for your domain you would not be able to recieve any mail. Additionally, many mail servers will not accept mail from domains that lack DNS records. > > One e-mail from Jeroen could possibly lead to your e-mail forwarding > > service being terminated. > > Not bloodly likely. I did not slander Jeroen. It is all a fantasy in > his head. Which you apparently got caught up in. More likely that you > would get sued for posting pornographic dolphin sex material in a public > forum. > > -- > "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ This is libel. No, that is not a fantasy/delusion. You have exagerated something I said into something it is not. You are saying in writing that I did or said something I did not do or say. Your unsuportable allegation that I posted *pornographic* dolphin sex material in a public forum is libel. The message I posted was not pornographic, but don't take my word for it, look up the legal definition of pornography, and you can see for yourself that my message did not meet the criterion for pornography. Let's take it a step further. If I were to say instead "If I loved a woman enough, I would want to share the joys and pleasures of sex with them." (virbatim what I said in my message *4 years ago* with the word "dolphin" replaced with "woman") Is that pornographic writing? No, it is not. The mere mention of sex does not make it pornographic. If the mere mention of sex made it pornographic, then it means that any sex education materials, many nature shows, many sci-fi and other fiction and non-fiction books, any movie that mentions or non-graphically depicts sex, etc., are pornographic, but that is not the case. By law, *graphic depictions* of sex are pornographic. The mention or discussion of sex (whether "normal" or "deviant") in a non-graphic manner is not pornography. Changing the subject of the quote above does not suddenly change a non-pornographic sentence into a pornographic one, so saying I posted porographic materials is libel, and you are guilty of it. I am sorry to see that you have no intention in ending the current thread in a mature manner. Perhaps it was too much for me to expect maturity from you. This discussion between us is over unless you are willing to discuss it maturely and rationally. In case you are wondering about what I mean by mature and rational discussion: Rational, mature discussion does not envolve flames, unsupported positions, outdated/irrelivant information (such as 4 year old posts), exagerations, or stereotype generalizations (straw men). To expand on that, rational, mature discussion discusses facts (such as science and laws) and opinions and uses facts to support opinions. For example, my above discussion of what does and does not constitute pornography and libel which reference the facts of law to support my position. Additionally unsupported positions are excluded or labeled as such in rational, mature discussion. BTW, no need to send me copies of messages off-list. Right now I am on digest, and can't filter out your messages except by old fassioned ignoring them. Even when I am not on digest, my "killfile" doesn't delete the messages outright, it is a folder I named "file 13" that I have all "killfiled" messages sent to. I can still read such messages, I just know how much weight to put in them in advance if I chose to read them. Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] We do not inherit the Earth from our parents; we borrow it from our children. - Native American Phylosophy
