> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: maandag 22 juli 2002 12:37
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: Re: Beware off-list conspiracies!

> > So, may I ask you to explain why at least one of the Listowners (and
> > one who has done a hell of lot for the list over the years) was not
> > informed about this, let alone invited to participate?
> 
> I assume because you aren't going to be a listowner on the new list.

Irrelevant. Unless they started testing just three days ago, it started
before people got pissed over my posting a subscriber list and starting
demanding that I be removed as listowner.


> But that, in my opinion, is not sufficient to justify their discussing
> important list matters in secret. You should have an input on that, as
> should everyone else on this list. It is really just elitism, which
> they no doubt justify to themselves by saying that letting some people
> on the list no about it would simply cause arguments or bad feelings.
> 
> I think it is good of these unnamed people to work on getting a
> hardware and software setup working for the list. But I think they are
> being imprudent and elitist in failing to curtail secret discussions
> relevant to the list philosophy on this "test" list.

Shocking and perhaps unexpected as it may be, I must agree with Erik on
this. Discussing list-related matters with only a small select group of
people reeks of elitism. Maybe it *is* not elitism, but it does have that
very specific smell to it.

Transparency? What transparency?


Jeroen "Brin-L Scapegoat And Doormat" van Baardwijk

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