Jim wrote:

>Lalith Vipulananthan wrote:
>>Jim wrote:
>> 
>>>However, after nearly two years here, I dove into the Culture 
>>>since Banks's name came up so many times when I asked for 
>>>books to read for the train.
>> 
>>It's good to hear that you do listen to people's suggestions. Either
>>that, or having Banks thrown at you for two years has finally 
>>penetrated your skull! :)
>
>LOL!  Well, it was a combination of both, frankly.  I knew 
>wwhen I asked for book ssuggestions that he'd comeup, so I 
>figured it was time to check it out.

Well, at least on the Culture list, if you ask for recommendations, Banks
doesn't usually get mentioned. Unfortunately, I've latched on to a few great
books and keep harping on about them like a stuck record. This has been
noted and ridiculed at times. Man, I'm far too easy to wind up! :)



>>Yup. I love the whole Culture idea but for some reason or another, I
>>didn't really enjoy TPoG as much as "Use of Weapons" and "Consider
>>Phlebas". I need to re-read the early Culture books since I 
>>read "Use of Weapons" first and it affected my enjoyment of the 
>>other Culture novels (ie none of them really measured up to it!)
>
>Well, then I'm glad I went in the order that I did.  I'd 
>rather build up than move down, givena choice.  :)  I think 
>either Phlebas or Weapons will be next.

CP is possibly your best bet as it takes a look at the Culture from the
viewpoint of an unsympathetic character. Horza (who is a git dammit!)
considers the Culture to be the bad guys in a galaxy spanning conflict
between the Culture and a race of religious maniacs who believe it is their
divine right to conquer all 'lesser' races.



>If you like.  I don't imagine he's going to answer then 
>either, but you never know.

Ah, but he'll be on TV and I'm hoping it'll be harder for him to get out of
than via a phone/email interview. I can only try!



>>I'd go for "Use of Weapons", "Consider Phlebas" and
>>"Feersum Endjinn" myself. I wasn't entirely convinced by "Excession" 
>>nor "Inversions". "Against a Dark Background" just seemed nihilistic 
>>to me.
>
>See, I think Endjinn will give me a headache, wading through 
>the language the one character uses.  But the first two are on 
>my list.  I may even try the Wasp Factory, though I hear 
>that's a tough read.


There was a recent post to the Culture List a couple of weeks ago that I
think is related to how I dealt with Bascule's phonetic spelling.

------
>  Interesting Theory !
>
>  " ... randomising letters in the middle of words [has] little or no
> effect on the ability of skilled readers to understand the text. This is
> easy to denmtrasote. In a pubiltacion of New Scnieitst you could ramdinose
> all the letetrs, keipeng the first two and last two the same, and
> reibadailty would hadrly be aftcfeed. My ansaylis did not come to much
> beucase the thoery at the time was for shape and senqeuce retigcionon.
> Saberi's work sugsegts we may have some pofrweul palrlael prsooscers at
> work. The resaon for this is suerly that idnetiyfing coentnt by paarllel
> prseocsing speeds up regnicoiton.  We only need the first and last two
> letetrs to spot chganes in meniang.
-------

When reading "Feersum Endjinn", I noticed that the speed at which I could
read Bascule's segments became faster and faster as I progressed through the
book. At first I had to read it out loud then I just read the Bascule bits
at my normal reading speed without having to vocalise the words. It's not as
bad as it looks, honest!

I've been on a mad "hunt down all Iain Banks hardcovers" buying spree on
Ebay and I now own AaDB and FE in hardcover after buying every Banks books
from Excession onwards in hardback and I don't really fancy my prospects on
tracking down his earlier stuff. However, I really do want to own UoW in
hardcover as it's my favourite.

Lal
VFP Feersum Endjinn indeed!


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