Russell said:

> Just a run-down:
> The original stat is irrelevant because:
> -  Less than 40% of the US is single-parent two-child househoulds,
>    therefore there's no proven overlap.

Ah, ok, I misunderstood what you were driving at initially. The perils of
posting after a night on the beers :-)

> "60% of the US population earns less than twice the minimum wage" is a
> relevant statistic, if you can show that the majority or even more than
40%
> of people cannot live on that. Actually, that statistic alone is worth
> something, but the addendum of the one-parent two-child comment made it
seem
> (to me at least) like you were trying to prove something that wasn't
there.

Right, I see what you mean. However, I didn't quote the original figures
because I thought they applied across the board, nor was I implying that
everyone who earns minimum wage is a one-parent family with two children. It
was primarily intended to be seen as two facts, though quite clearly it
doesn't read like that, I admit. Personally, I don't think it's a major leap
to suppose that earning half that amount or less, even without children
isn't going to mean you're enjoying a good lifestyle (indeed the 98 US
govt's poverty guidelines suggest an income of $13,650 for a 3-person
houshold is impecunious; the poverty line for just one person is still 60%
of that). But that's an (as you say) unfounded extrapolation. So, fair
enough, I take your point on board.

Slighty more, erm, relevant stats (had I been able to dig them out last
night) would have been that:

70% of people earning minimum wage are over the age of 20, and over half are
over the age of 25 - which somewhat goes against the idea that it's just
students earning some pocket money. 10% are over 60.
62% of people earning minimum wage are women, who are five times more likely
to be the heads of the 16.4% of households which are single parent.
11.7% of minium wage earners are the sole bread winners for a family unit of
two or more people.
24.3% of MW earners are the head of their household
MW for a single earner should be enough to provide 120% of poverty level
income. However, that falls to 91% with one child, and 73% with two.
The real value of the MW is falling year on year.

http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/minimum%20wage%20current.pdf
http://www.divorcemag.com/statistics/statsUS.shtml
http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/p20-537.pdf
http://www.epf.org/graph/pr991108f1.gif
http://www.epf.org/graph/pr991108f2.gif
http://www.ncpa.org/hotlines/min/1996.html
http://www.epinet.org/Issueguides/minwage/mw_val_1960-2001.pdf

Rik.




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