"John D. Giorgis" wrote:

> >Actually, I think you missed the real unwritten rule.  It is assumed, by
> >most folks here, that it is a truism that anyone with any political power
> >at all is fair game for any criticism.
> 
...
> said about public figure.   Additionally, this moral standard that you are
> proposing does not comport with legal standards of libel and slander, which
> expressly identify that *some* things cannot be said about certain people -
> *especially* public persons.
> 
> So, let us be clear about exactly what Kat said.   She said that President
> Bush is rallying the nation to war, and by definition sending some people
> to their deaths, for personal political and economic gain.   

        I was under the impression that virtually anything could be 
said about a figure as public as Bush Jr., as far as the law went.
After all, almost everything does have political connections.  I'm 
sure that I could say he acted in gay porn to get cocaine, and 
defend it as satire.  : )

        By the way, it seems to me that the only part of Kat's statement
that you can object to is her characterization of Bush's motives.  
Since an individual's motives are really private to them, you 
aren't actually saying much.  (Bush certainly IS rallying the US
to war.  And he certainly might gain politically and economically
by doing so.)

> 
> JDG - Who, just for the record, is taking this kind of insult to the man he
> votes for personally.

        Come off it!  You're actually PROUD of Bush as a 
president?  I'm sure that you could come up with a long list 
of (rabidly conservative  : ) ) people who you feel are more
qualified.  One generally votes for the lesser of evils, regardless
of one's views as to which is which.  Personally, I haven't 
voted for anyone I could even stand to listen to since
Jimmy Carter.

                                        ---David Hobby
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