----- Original Message -----
From: "William T Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BRIN-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World


> on 2/10/02 10:40 pm, Jon Gabriel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> > Jeroen, you've stated onlist before about how your English language
skills
> > reflect that you are not a native English speaker.  Allow me to correct
your
> > misinterpretation of the word "antisemitism" by presenting some valid
source
> > material:
> >
> >> From Miriam Webster's online dictionary:
> > (www.m-w.com)
> > One entry found for anti-Semitism.
> > Main Entry: an�ti-Sem�i�tism
> > Pronunciation: "an-ti-'se-m&-"ti-z&m, "an-"tI-
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1882
> > : hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious,
ethnic, or
> > racial group
> > - an�ti-Se�mit�ic /-s&-'mi-tik/ adjective
> > - an�ti-Sem�ite /-'se-"mIt/ noun
> >
> > The American Heritage dictionary, which I have on my desk at work lists
the
> > following definitions for antisemitism:
> > n. 1. Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.  2.
> > Discrimination against Jews.
> >
> > The American Heritage dictionary may have an online site... I just don't
> > have time to check right now.
> >
> > Since both the Miriam Webster and American Heritage dictionaries are
> > accepted as one of the authoritative sources for spelling and
definitions of
> > English, your definition of antisemitism as listed in your message
(quoted
> > above) is incorrect. In modern parlance, indeed in proper English usage
> > antisemitism is defined as someone who is anti-Jew, not anti-Jew and
> > anti-Arab.
> >
> > So, in reference to your statement:
> >
> >>> It is one of the major flaws in the "logic" of the
> >> fanatically-pro-Israel
> >>> crowd.
> >
> > This is not a flaw in their logic.  They are using the word properly and
you
> > are not.
> >
> > I hope this clears things up.
>
> >From Chambers 20th Century Dictionary (the /other/ main British
Dictionary)
>
> "Anti-Semite a hater of Semites, esp. Jews, or of their influence. - adj.
> Anti-Semitic. - n.
>
>
> Semite n. a member of any of the peoples said (Gen. X) to be descended
from
> Shem or speaking a Semitic language.
>
> Semitic languages : Assyrian, Aramaic, Hebrew, Phoenician, Arabic,
Ethiopic
> etc."
>
> We obviously use different definitions in the Old World.
>

Nope, you use more sophistry in the old world.
Your definition of "anti-semite" is virtually the same as ours.
Yet you *choose* to add definitions of other terms into the mix in order to
justify your prejudices.
(Those prejudices are not necessarily anti-semitism BTW)
You will notice that no one has brought forth a definition that defines
"anti-semite" as a hater of middle eastern people.
That is because the term "anti-semite" has a specific definition that is
derived, not from dictionary use, but from language use over a very long
period of time.
You just dont see the term used in any other way.

xponent
Semite Neutral Maru
rob


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