At 07:00 PM 10/13/2002 -0700 d.brin wrote:
>Do you have ANY british friends?  have you bothered even remotely to 
>find out what other people in other lands think?  Under Clinton we 
>were admired.  Nearly all foreigners were puzzled/amazed by 
>Monicagate.  They nearly now all think we are crazed cowboys.

Europeans tend to be much more left-wing than Americans, and have always
had greater affinity for our Democratic, rather than our Republican
Presidents.

>2.  We have NO solid evidence for major transportable deliverable 
>WMDs in Iraq.  This dogwag is based on the principle that we can 
>charge into any country, any time, based on rumors!  Any wonder the 
>rest of the world hates it? So why are we squandering all our good 
>will dragging them in?

Rumours?    How are we supposed to take you seriously, when you make
statements like this?:

First off, the ability of Hussein to mount chemical and biological weapons
on Scud missiles is not doubted by anybody AFAIK.   

Secondly, even if we charitably assume that by "WMD" you actually meant
"nuclear weapons", the problem is that Saddam Hussein has come very close
once to building a bomb (at Osirisk in the 80's), and when UN inspectors
left Iraq in the late 90's, they said that he may only be a few years away.
   Much more importantly, however, ONCE HUSSEIN GETS A NUKE ITS TOO LATE! 

Just think about what a disaster it would be for Hussein to launch a nuke
at Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia (home to thousands of American
citizens), or against the main Saudi Oil Terminal, or even into Tel Aviv -
all of which are within range of his Scuds.    How does one confront Saddam
Hussein when he is holding cards like that?    In such a scenario, regime
change becomes nearly impossible, and even pushing Hussein out of Kuwait in
1990 becomes quite scary.   

The question Dr. Brin, is not "how sure are we that Hussein has a nuclear
weapons program", the question is "How sure are you that he does not?"

Given that Hussein has withheld food and medicine from his own people,
there is no question that the US would have a moral right to attack Iraq,
based on Hussein's human rights record alone.    Given that there is such a
tremendous risk of him building a nuclear weapon, regime change in Iraq
becomes a moral impertative for freedom-loving nations.

JDG
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