At 00:20 27-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
Dinging will not stop it, it will only delay it. The only difference will be that a flame sent at 13:00 GMT will not arrive at 13:01 GMT but at, say, 18:00 hours. If the flame war consists of a number of messages from more than one person, that all get delayed, it will even stretch the duration; instead of one day, it might take three or four days.> Our aim is to find a set of rules, or heuristics, that prevent abuse -- > not necessarily the possibility of abuse, but certainly from a > practical standpoint.That makes sense. I support the idea of dings because it allows the community to slow down mail bombs, quiet flame wars, etc. without throwing anyone off.
You must be talking about some other list. AFAIK this list has never been mail bombed (unless your definition of "mail bomb" is quite different from its common meaning -- an attempt to disrupt service by overloading the server).> The fact is, we already tolerate near-anonymity from subscribers who > only identify themselves with pseudonyms, rather than their legal names. > I imagine that if we had a member who was threatening retribution for > dinging (mail-bombing, lawsuits, etc.), anonimity might prove the only > means of bringing some order. Maybe not necessary, though. Since we have a list member who has mail bombed, and has threatened lawsuits, and has, perhaps in jest, threatened violence, I think that is reasonable.
As for "threats" of lawsuits and violence, that probably depends on whether you use the American or European definition of "threat".
As for lawsuits, I doubt that even an US judge would consider dinging a valid reason for filing a lawsuit; the complaining party would probably end up being fined for filing frivolous lawsuits.
As for the anonimity, I doubt it would help in bringing some order. I think there is a very real risk that the dingee will then simply turn against the whole list, following the reasoning "if I hit them all, I must also hit the dinger".
This whole dinging system might cause more problems than it solves...
Jeroen "Shields up! Red alert!" van Baardwijk
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