----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Some things are too good to last
> Dan Minette wrote: > > > > I hit reply on a post from Sonja, and it went to her instead of the list. > > That's the first time that's happend to me. Anyway, here it is. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:29 AM > > Subject: Re: Some things are too good to last > > > > > "Adam C. Lipscomb" wrote: > > > > > > Well, who wrote "Corrupted-World-of-Brin-L Website:"? If listmember > > > > "J" uses a website to slam the list, or threatens to do so, with the > > > > implicit threat that some members of the list may have libelous > > > > information posted about them, are other listmembers not allowed to > > > > say anything about it? How are other listmembers supposed to react to > > > > that? Say nothing? > > > > > > It's an idea that might perhaps work. It hasn't been tried so far and > > > everything else failed. But males in general, usually aren't very good at > > > that. So I forgive you. ;o) > > > > You appear to ignore extemely credible evidence that has been presented on > > Brin-l.detailing how such a threat cannot simply be ignored. The problem > > with such a website with names and libel is that it is extremely visable. > > Let us assume that a curious person who heard about Gautam would type in > > his name. It is probable that it would list Jeroen's page as one of the > > first hits. The same is true with my name. > > > > Gautam said that his employer would require him to quit the list; they > > don't like conterversy. Other folks, who are looking for work, might face > > a situation when someone doing due dilligence might simply types their > > names into a search engine and comes up with that website as a hit. They > > might not even be told why they were not offered a job. Yes, they might > > not, too. But, it is not beyond the pale to expect someone to spend 3 > > minutes checking on the public information available on someone looking for > > work. > > > > I do not see how you can ask someone to have ignored your husbands threats > > to people's livelihoods. > > I haven't seen any evidence that he's about to put that sort of negative > information up; all he's done this week is indicate displeasure with the > list with his .sig. I agree, and that's fair enough. I know that Jeroen's recent responses to me have been much easier to deal with. He has strongly pushed his points, but has kept the conversation on topic. Yes, he has ignored some of my questions, but in my head I just assume that he doesn't have a good answer for those questions right now. I've seen other posters delay answers to certain questions until they are happy with responses. But, Adam brought up an example of a past threat, and I was responding to Sonja's response to that, etc. That threat no longer seems operative, which is very good, but it is a reasonable example of a threat that could not have been ignored. > I think that on the basis of this one .sig file change, some people are > overreacting. My reaction was at the time was "please let this not be the start of a pattern." It doesn't appear to be, Jeroen seems to write lotsa different things in the .sig file. >If he actually modifies content on his website to reflect > this negativity, that's another matter entirely, but he hasn't done a > damn thing to it this week as far as I can tell. All he has done is > modify his .sig file. Lighten up, guys, would ya? I have no problem with the .sig. However, I didn't respond to Sonja's first comment that the original protest of Gautam, myself, and others was just paranoia because I was willing to let things lie and because I allowed a bit of hyperbola by someone who was subjected to a number of rude emails. (That of course was wrong.) However, after it became a repeated theme for Sonja; I decided to respond. I have no problems with Jeroen put in his sig. I have a significant problem with any credible threat of RL consequences. That is not paranoia. Indeed, my issue is with Sonja's posts, not Jeroen's sigs. I differ with them and thus write a rebuttal. No hard feelings. Indeed, a casual perusal of my posting patterns indicates that I do tend to write rebuttals for posts I differ with, even when they are written by people I like. :-) Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
