At 01:49 08-12-2002 -0500, you wrote:
I must agree with Jon; I think that there really should be some document that at least states a few basic things such as:> I think codifying "The Rules" only invites people to skirt them, and > to be honest I think that is pretty much what you attempted to do. You > argue like a defense lawyer about what is right and what is wrong, when > it is really a pretty simple thing for most people.OK, here's where I disagree with you, Rob. If for no other reason than to be fair, the rules really need to establish in advance whether typical moderation will be indefinite or temporary -- or if it will last until a change in behavior is forthcoming etc. I don't think it needs to be terribly specific, but it does need to let people know they're not being shunned indefinitely.
- what kinds of behaviour will not be accepted
- what steps can/will be taken in case something unacceptable happens
- if sanctions are taken against a member, how long they will last.
I also think it should be formally established that sanctions may only be taken after the list has discussed the matter and has given its approval. This should prevent current and future listowners from becoming judge, jury and executioner. Keywords here are "accountability" and "transparency".
That of course raises the question of how to deal with listowners who themselves misbehave, especially if his/her fellow listowners support him/her. Any suggestions?
Well, if you insist, we could try to track down Kyle and ask him to return... :-)We've lost many people over the past few years, some to their own stubborn-ness and others to their own desire to enjoy being a part of a grand discussion not peppered with flamewars and bickering. Brin-L goes on without their voices, but I think each one is missed. :-(
Ahem. If you know the meaning of those words, than you should also know (and use) the appropriate response to them (Alaikum Salam in Arabic, Aleichem Hashalom in Hebrew). Just thought I should mention that.> > Salam Alaikum / Sholom Aleichem. The phrase means: "Peace be with you" in both Hebrew and Arabic and I return the sentiment tenfold.
Jeroen "Speaker of many tongues" van Baardwijk
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