J. van Baardwijk wrote: > I must agree with Jon; I think that there really should be some document > that at least states a few basic things such as: > > - what kinds of behaviour will not be accepted > - what steps can/will be taken in case something unacceptable happens > - if sanctions are taken against a member, how long they will last.
Reasonable points, but should be kept fairly general ie not a highly detailed and specific list of transgressions and detailed penalties. > I also think it should be formally established that sanctions may only be > taken after the list has discussed the matter and has given its approval. > This should prevent current and future listowners from becoming judge, jury > and executioner. Keywords here are "accountability" and "transparency". Please no! I don't want endless arguments and bickering about any specific cases. As long as there is a clear statement by the list manager(s) giving reasons and remedies, then that should be it. If they clearly over-step the mark, then I am sure there would be no stopping ferocious reaction to their decisions. As long as they are reasonable, even if we disagree to some extent, I would rather not have the list cluttered with endless discussions about this. I would think we have had enough of that already. > That of course raises the question of how to deal with listowners who > themselves misbehave, especially if his/her fellow listowners support > him/her. Any suggestions? If there is widespread belief this has happened, I would think we would raise an almighty ruckus. If enough of us felt strongly that misbehaviour had occurred, then one of the remedies available to us is to desert this list and set up an alternative venue, and transfer to that. All my comments do place a great deal of reliance and trust in the list managers, but so far I have not seen much to worry about. Because of your dispute Jeroen, I can see where you may have some reservations about this :-) Regards, Ray. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
