> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On > Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: About My Copyright Notice
> Importance: High
>
> My last few messages to this list included a perfectly legal copyright

> notice -- and our List Dictator promptly responded.
>
> I just received an off-list message from Arnett in which he claims my 
> Copyright Notice exposes him to liability that he finds unacceptable.
This 
> was followed by the EXPLICIT THREAT that if I would include it again,
I 
> would be PUT ON MODERATION FOR AS LONG AS HE HOSTS THE LIST, and that
NO 
> MESSAGES CONTAINING THAT COPYRIGHT NOTICE WOULD BE ALLOWED THROUGH. 
> Further, that decision would be made by him unilaterally, without 
> consulting with his fellow list admin Julia Thompson. Finally, he
claims 
> it 
> is not negotiable and that he will not discuss the matter with me.
>
> Am I the only one here who thinks that Arnett is overreacting again? 
> Apparently *his* copyright must be defended at all cost, but anyone
else 
> who claims copyright and wants that copyright respected is "exposing
him 
> to 
> unacceptable liability". I wonder what will be the next thing we will
not 
> be allowed to say...

I think you are once again deliberately trying to incite a revolution.
You have been ranting about our listowners since you were removed from
being a co-owner of Cornell's brin-l listserver for abuse of power.  You
have tried several times to encourage the list to rise up against both
Nick and Julia.  Your comments are pathetically transparent when
examined from this perspective.  Did you think that we all magically
forgot that you used brin-l.com as a public call to crusade against
Nick, Julia and John (and posted their real life contact information)
because you apologized?  Did you think we had forgotten the nasty,
outraged post full of threats you made when you were removed from power?
As far as I can see, your stated motives haven't changed. 

You are also the only person who seems to be at the center of any
unpleasantness that's popped up over the last few months.  Between your
recent flamewar with Erik Reuter and your arguments with Nick Arnett and
with JDG, you certainly seem to have become our list demagogue. It's not
a title I'd be proud of, personally. 

This list has been archived since its inception.  Members who join are
informed that their posts will be archived and that they can access
those archives through the web interface at mccmedia.com.  If they have
a problem with that, the unsubscribe commands are posted there as well.
I have posted them at the end of this e-mail for everyone's convenience.

You knew the list was archived.  You have not had a problem with it
until now.  You have been a list member for over 4 or 5 years.  Why
should the list suddenly change its policies to fit your newfound
opinions?  But the point isn't the copyright, now is it?  You're trying
to incite a revolution and you're using a conveniently current onlist
debate to do so. 

Nick is within his rights to protect himself from threats of lawsuits.
He is also within his right to protect his business and his server from
threats of any kind (whether they are legal threats, or spam or
viruses.)  You're making legal threats that fit that description.

I would like to publicly go on record as stating that I personally fully
support Julia and Nick in this matter.  I believe that our server is
fine just where it is, too.  If the majority of the list feels
discussing and defining list-administrator duties would be constructive
then I will support and participate in such a debate.  I won't, however,
support your call to do so.  Your motives are dishonest, IMO.

Oh, and by the way, to unsubscribe from brin-l, you or anyone else
merely needs to send the following message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: unsubscribe.  

Jon
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