--- Kevin Tarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>  
> Can you answer a not related question? My friend's
> father, brother,  and 
> sister (when she was pregnant I'd assume so may not
> be related) all have gall stone trouble.

Pregnancy can be associated with various liver-related
problems, including symptomatic gallstone disease (up
to 80% of gallstones do not cause pain/problems).

[Aside: symptoms from gallstones can include right
shoulder pain, even though the gallbladder is under
the liver in the abdomen, because of the lack of
'point-to-point' correspondence of visceral nerves
compared to those that supply the skin/limbs.  When
your eyes are closed, you can tell me precisely where
I poked your arm, but if I could poke your heart
instead, you might feel stomach upset, chest pain or
even a toothachy discomfort.  Weird but true.] 

> His brother drinks a lot of ice tea so 
> that may be a cause... my 
> friend drinks a lot of beer and water and never had
> trouble. Does drinking 
> beer and water make it less likely for him or is it
> an unrelated 
> coincidence? Because my brother drinks a lot of
> beer, so I'd  hope he'd be 
> less likely to have stones. Me too.

No, alcohol is definitely a risk factor for liver
disease, liver cancer and gallbladder cancer.  Tea was
not listed as a risk factor for gallstone formation in
the 5 articles (eMedicine) I scanned; neither was
beer, but Mexican American & Amerindian race, obesity,
increasing age and being female all are.  (I think
smoking is a possible - some overlap with alcohol
abuse confuses this a bit.)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12195163&dopt=Abstract
"Cancer of the gallbladder is rare but fatal, and has
an unusual geographic and demographic distribution.
Gallstones and obesity have been suggested as possible
risk factors. As diet is known to influence both these
factors...In conclusion, the results of the present
study show a protective effect of vegetables and
fruits on gallbladder carcinogenesis, but red meat
(beef and mutton) was found to be associated with
increased risk of gallbladder cancer."
 
(This 2002 study did find an increased odds ratio of
gallbladder cancer with tea and chili consumption, but
it was "not statistically significant.")

A 1989 study: "...was conducted to investigate the
relationship of pancreatic cancer with certain chronic
medical conditions and with the consumption of tea,
coffee and alcoholic beverages. Significant positive
associations with pre-existing diabetes mellitus and
gall-bladder disease were observed and there was weak
evidence of association with liver disease...Cases
drank significantly more beer than controls (p =
0.005) and there was evidence of a positive trend in
risk with total alcohol consumption. Smoking was a
clear risk factor, but cases and controls were very
similar with respect to tea and coffee drinking
habits."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2925272&dopt=Abstract

Debbi
You Just Had To Ask Maru :)

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