On 30 Jan 2003 at 22:24, William T Goodall wrote: > on 29/1/03 7:46 pm, Andrew Crystall at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On 29 Jan 2003 at 18:41, William T Goodall wrote: > > > >> In the UK most people who have a phone line can use any dialup ISP > >> from anywhere. And if you are in range of an ADSL enabled exchange > >> [1] you can use any broadband ISP to provide your service. With > >> cable broadband it depends which (if any) cable company has wired > >> your area. [2] > > > > Actually, as I recall it's ~60% have ADSL but another 15% odd have > > access to broadband via cable internet (not including the overlap > > zones) for an overall somewhere between 70 and 70 percent. > > I was just quoting the figure given at http://www.adslguide.org.uk/ I > don't where they got it from.
Ahh. The figures there are old and somewhat general. The guys there know it needs a work-over. > > And let me restate - all the "home" deals for dial-up access in the > > UK kick you off every 2 hours, and they kick you off the *ISP > > entirely* if in any 24 hour rolling period you're connected for more > > than 12 hours. The ONLY exception is AOL. > > Demon doesn't either. See > http://www.demon.net/products/access/standard.shtml "***Demon uses 0845 numbers on the Standard Dial Up account. 0845 numbers are described by Oftel as "local call rate". BT charges these at local call rates " I mean free-dial ISP's. AND Demon charge you for the SDU which is so poor it's unfunny. For free-dial, you're looking at �45 per month with Demon. While admitedly they give you cheaper phone calls, it's still THREE times as expensive as a standard free-dial ISP and considerably more expensive than ADSL! > > "Unlike an increasing number of ISPs, Demon does not cut your > connection off after an hour or two online so there�s no need to lose > your position in any game! " > > > > > There's also the slight fact as well that dial-up ISP's are �15 or > > less a month, and while broadband can be had for the ~�25 range, > > there are activation costs (�60) and hardware (from �40 for a ADSL > > PCI card to �120 for a nice ethernet ADSL router and 4-port switch) > > to consider, plus likely 2+ microfilters at �7.50 each.... > > Demon are doing free setup at the moment. Monthly fee �24.99 inc VAT. > Combined modem / ethernet routers start under �60 inc VAT. > Microfilters are �3.99, but I got three thrown in for free when I > bought my kit. Yes there are some nice deals out there...but most of them have 12, 24 or even 36-month minimum contracts! No good for me, given I move arround so much (as a student). It's why I'm with Eclipse who have a 1 month minimum. (sure, it's �27 per month rather than the �24 of Pipex, but it's cheaper than paying for a year when I need 8 months!) Andy Dawn Falcon _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
