At 07:21 PM 2/19/2003 -0800, you wrote:

--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is the income generated by a winning football
> program?  Dollars to
> donuts, even with the high expense generated by the
> football program, the
> football program generates a lot more revenue than
> expenses.  The _real_
> crime is that there are so many athletes who are
> paid in lies for five or
> six years of work.
>
> Dan M.

You lose, Dan :-)  There was a good article in the NY
Times Magazine a few weeks ago that argued (very
convincingly, in my opinion) that few, if any large
college football programs run at a profit for the
school.  The small handful of really elite schools -
Notre Dame is the classic example - might, but for
each one of those, there are a hundred that aspire
desperately to do the same and fail miserably, wasting
millions of dollars.

I agree with you about the lies, however.  The fact
that the NCAA manages to get a large number of
(disproportionately poor and black) young men and
women to generate considerable revenues for their
school and turn a blind eye to conditions that make it
impossible to get their promised education while
receiving no compensation whatsoever in return, and
somehow maintain itself in a position as some sort of
moral arbiter, is one of the eternal mysteries of
American life.

I would suggest, as a simple solution, that every
athlete who plays a Division I varsity sport get _two_
years of full scholarship for every year he plays on
the team.  This would acknowledge the impossibility of
studying in any meaningul sense while giving the
athletes some sort of reward for their efforts.

Gautam

Can you tell me when the article was published? I can't belive that only a handful of programs are making money. Heck, some of what were once weak schools, like Miami, built their programs by playing punching bag for powerhouse programs and getting paid for it.

And I don't agree with your view of the lies. I'd say that the thousands of kids who do take advantage of their opportunities and graduate in four years, or less, far outweigh the few who say 'the system failed me' because they didn't do their work. Some schools sports programs have better graduations rates than the general student body. Yes some have far far worse.

Kevin T. - VRWC
Time for bed, more tomorrow

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