On 2 Mar 2003 at 0:37, John D. Giorgis wrote: > At 09:22 PM 3/1/2003 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
> >In fact, if the current administration had its way, the > >confidentially and quietly drafted Domestic Security Enhancement Act > >of 2003, dubbed Patriot Act II, would already be the supreme law of > >the land. Under this law, U.S. citizens acting as human shields in > >Iraq could be stripped of their U.S. citizenship, denied their > >Constitutional rights, be held indefinitely, and tried secretly as > >"enemy combatants" based on the allegedly treasonous "intent" of > >their actions as "aiding and abetting the enemy." The underlying > >intent of their actions would be judged solely on the interpretation > >of U.S. leaders caught in an overly simplistic, dichotomous > >worldview, where U.S. leaders represent all that is righteous, > >morally superior and good, and any others who believe and behave > >differently, everything that is unrighteous, morally bankrupt and > >evil. > > I agree with all of these policy decisions. Indeed, isn't it ironic > that this news is being published in the "*Yellow* Times?" I almost > wish that I had made it up myself.... :) > > Those idiots who are travelling to Iraq to be human shields *are* > committing war crimes, by intentionally placing themselves in a war > zone. Indeed, by aiding and abetting a war criminal, Saddam Hussein, > they are not only accessories to war crimes, but there are in fact, > enemy combatants. I agree. > The US Consitution gives every American the right to be stupid - but > it also specifies that they have the right to pay the price for their > own stupidity. If any of those numbnuts are lucky enough to get > out of Iraq alive, they should be grateful for getting to spend the > rest of their lives in US prison. Right. There is a line. Protesting is fine, but traveleing to the enemy country, being a good PR photoshoot for them and generally aiding the enemy isn't. Of course, the line is drawn in different places sometimes. I have several friends in the Isralie Defence Force who are extremely unhappy with the government policies which have lead to their placements, but they're applying "shut up and soldier", and have no sympathy for a few young hotheads in the army who refused to serve in some areas and thus got discliplined for it. One has on the basis of the experience decided NOT to go for officer training as he was origionally going to at the end of his 3 years, but that IS the choice. The line is further over for civilians, but it still exists. Andy Dawn Falcon _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
