http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2841377.stm
Halupovich Ilana wrote: > Jeroen wrote > <<I found the documentary very disturbing. Just to mentions a few > things: > * For years Israel lied about having a nuclear program (the plant in > Dimona where Israel was making plutonium for bombs was said to be a > textiles factory).>> It didn't exactly lie. It just didn't comment and America didn't ask. That is quite different and even more disturbing seen the way things are right now. > 1. There are *several* textile factories in Dimona. ... so the cover chosen is believable. But what do you wanne tell us with the comment you made? This particular one shown had a dome typical of a nuclear installation. > 2. Satellite (American I think) "saw" nuclear factory several month > after Vaanunu sold his news to London press. So it was not such big a > secret. > > <<* People who worked there were told by Israeli Intelligence that they > were not to talk to reporters about it, and were told that they would > "end up like Vanunu" if they did.>> > > When you start working for government in *any* way, you sign > no-disclosure (sp) forms. You know the punishment. > He is in solitary confinement (sp). Not different from what any other > spy got. And that makes it OK? > <<<Personal comment> > A six by nine foot cell. My *bedroom* is bigger than that. My > mother-in-law's *bathroom* is bigger than that. And both have a window. > </Personal comment>>> > > Last time I looked - you were not jailed criminal. Has it changed? Maybe you didn't get what Jeroen was trying to say with that comment. I believe that he expressed his astonishment about the conditions Vanunu is held in, by comparing them to real existing conditions in our direct surrounding. Having a living space consisting of a room the size of less then a bathroom without any acces to the rest of the world (no personal contact, not even a window) for several years must be hell on anyone. Furthermore the fact that this is done with the sole purpose of deterring others from speaking freely is abominable. I do feel it to be a very inhuman and unjust treatment. The fact that you, Ilana, agree and even seem to uncritically defend this kind of treatment of a fellow human being does in my view not reflect very favourable on you as a person. It is however a bit puzzelling that you should feel this way since you are someone who has been living under a regime that used exactly the same way of deterrant and repression of free speach, religion and abberant thought before you came to Israel. > <<"Vanunu told the world that Israel had developed between one hundredand > two hundred atomic bombs and had gone on to develop neutron bombs > and thermonuclear weapons. Enough to destroy the entire Middle East and > nobody has done anything about it since.">> > > Do you remember, that I asked you to look at Israel on the world map? Do > you remember your answer? Because if you don't - I ask you to do this > again. And *then* tell again, that we can use nuclear weapons without > committing suicide. Isreal probably can, because the surrounding countries don't have them or unlike Israel are by treaty (and otherwise) forced to give them up. That is the scary part about it. > <<Time to send mr. Blix and his inspection team to Israel -- with UN > armed forces following close behind them to remove those WMD's by force > if Israel doesn't give them up voluntarily.>> I believe the report mentioned something about chemical agents being used on Palestinians civilians. However it wasn't made clear if it was an accident or done on purpose. > Remind me, pls, when Israel threatened *anybody* with non-conventional > weapons? Tanks rolling over someones house, while they are still inside are a pretty convincing threat. Even if the reason given for doing so are if not condonable still understandable. Sonja GCU Free speach is precious, when striving for a transparent and just society Accountabillity Maru _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
