Jeroen wrote <<* The treatment Vanunu was given was nothing less than a blatant violation of human rights. As Mary Eoloff (the female half of the American couple who adopted him) said: "He was buried alive. He was shut up in a six by nine-foot cell with no windows so he couldn't see outside. Even when he exercised there was a canvas around him when he was out walking.">>
I wrote <<He is in solitary confinement (sp). Not different from what any other spy got.>> Jeroen wrote <<And that makes it alright? You violate one prisoner's human rights, but that's okay because you violate the human rights of several other prisoners as well?>> I have a news for you. Prison is not hotel. People are put there to be punished for the harm they have done *and* to be prevented from continuing doing harm. Jeroen wrote <<Personal comment> A six by nine foot cell. My *bedroom* is bigger than that. My mother-in-law's *bathroom* is bigger than that. And both have a window. </Personal comment>>> I wrote <<Last time I looked - you were not jailed criminal. Has it changed?>> Jeroen ignored my question and wrote <<I challenge you to spend one *month* locked up in a six by nine foot windowless room, without being allowed contact with others. Then we'll talk again.>> *I* am not a criminal. Jeroen wrote <<"Vanunu told the world that Israel had developed between one hundred and two hundred atomic bombs and had gone on to develop neutron bombs and thermonuclear weapons. Enough to destroy the entire Middle East and nobody has done anything about it since.">> I wrote <<Do you remember, that I asked you to look at Israel on the world map? Do you remember your answer? Because if you don't - I ask you to do this again. And *then* tell again, that we can use nuclear weapons without committing suicide.>> Jeroen wrote <<If using nuclear weapons would be suicide for Israel, why did it turn itself into a country with the world's sixth largest nuclear arsenal? Building up such an arsenal when you know you'll never be able to use it is basically just a huge waste of time, money and other resources.>> Which I take as "no, I don't remember" I wrote <<Remind me, pls, when Israel threatened *anybody* with non-conventional weapons? Jeroen wrote <<Israel didn't threaten with them, they *used* them.>> Check your sources (or is it follow ups?) It was proven as mass hysteria. I wrote <<Anyway, Thanx to Vaanunu and to Klinberg *everybody* knows where Israeli research centers are - no real challenge.>> Jeroen wrote <<We know where they are. Now we need to figure out exactly what goes on there, where and how large Israel's stockpiles of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons are, and then destroy them (the WMD's, not the Israelis). Give me *one* good reason why a country should have *undeclared* nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, and *no* outside inspections.>> Give me one reason why this is any business of yours. Ilana _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
