--- Jean-Marc Chaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think France, as the broad majority of the
> council, was agreeing with
> the necessity of a verifiable set of compliance
> tests, with the presence
> of a deadline (which length was under discussion)
> and the presence of
> the threat of military action.  This was a
> considerable step forward.
> The thing France didn't want was the automaticity of
> the start of a war
> as a mere consequence of a grammatical conjunction.
> France wanted the
> security council, i.e. humans beeings to convene
> formally and declare
> the start of military action.

If that were true, it would have proposed some of
those tests.  Instead it rejected the tests proposed
by the British unconditionally.  If France's position
really was in favor of putting pressure on Iraq, why
did it:
1. Oppose all attempts by the US to do so? and
2. Not send its own troops to the Middle East to
increase the pressure?
At least one major reason that Saddam didn't cooperate
was France's decision to split the council and weaken
all attempts to put pressure on him.  If France's
intentions were what you say, it's actions would have
been essentially the exact opposite of what they were.

> But the United States rejected it outright,
> immediately, even before
> Iraq did.  

Because we, correctly, believed that France was
negotiating in bad faith.  France lied to us about
1441.  It opposed every attempt to put pressure on
Iraq.  There was no reason - none at all - to believe
anything other than that this was yet another attempt
to defer pressure into the future, so that when the US
finally did lose patience and invade, the American and
Iraqi casualties would be still higher.
> 
> I still think it was a valid point of view, even if
> one disagrees, I mean
> not indefensible. Are you sure you don't confuse
> yourself with Germany
> position (no war no matter what) ?
> 

> Jean-Marc

Actually, Germany's point of view was far more
defensible.  Germany essentially was saying - no war
under any circumstances, we don't care, we're
pacifists.  France was basically saying - no war to
topple a genocidal dictator with weapons of mass
destruction who sponsors terrorists against the United
States, but wars to protect, say, French economic
interests in Africa, those are okay.  One of the two
positions is foolish, the other malign.

Gautam

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