--- Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.com> wrote:
> >From: Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >2 points
> >
> >1) With the energy needed to extract these, is it still workable? Is the
> >energy needed for mining small enough for the system to be sustainable?
> >
> >2) The human body will generate energy from the above mentioned chemicals.
> >However, living cells are not sustainable. They wear out, and must be
> >replaced. Replacing cells requires proteins amino acids, and other 
> >chemicals.
> >Without certain vitamins the human body will shut down. The machines would
> >not only have to mine for Water, Oxygen, Carbon, and Hydrogen, but they 
> >would
> >also need to have a way to supply these other things.
> >
> >Now is the energy needed to supply all of these small enough for the
> system
> >to be sustainable?
> 
> I'll add a third point:
> 3) Why use humans?   Wouldn't a creature more towards the ends of the size
> spectrum be more efficient at the energy production?  (ie: cattle or mice
> or 
> vats
> of bacteria)  Also, those would have the added efficiency of not needing
> the
> "matrix" to keep them entertained.
> 
> And my random other observation about the matrix:
> Why the heck should the matrix be "just like real life in the year 2000" or
> 
> whatever?
> Why not make it a perfect, ideal paradise for everyone?  Then no one would 
> want to
> leave it, and no one would be killed prematurely by violence in the 
> simulation (which
> has to be an inefficiency).
> 

Yea, so the question is, is the story crap, or have they accounted for all of
this and will reveal it in the next movie? Like: 

The earth is uninhabitable, humans escape in a ship, or a group of ships, for
some cultural or energy consumption reason, or just to allow a more "normal
life" the humans are plunged in to the matrix. 

Then you can go many directions from there. 

The machines end up with a glitch and the humans are never taken out of the
matrix. They stop looking for an inhabitable planet. 

Or they haven't found one yet, but they introduce the "architect\neo" program
to combat the "wakeups". 

Or after eons the machines become somewhat self aware and are afraid. 

Or my favorite: the Humans all die out but their "program" is loaded
permanently into the matrix. Only as code they self destruct, or some such
glitch, and the lie of the matrix is a distraction from the fact that their
is no "real life" any more...which happens to fit with the direction they are
taking the whole philosophy thing.


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               Jan William Coffey
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