>> I did get this wrong. What I should have correctly said is a cubic >> centimeter of flesh contains more energy than a cubic >centimeter of solar >> gas. Dan's assumtion about mass was correct. A cubic >centimeter of gas >does >> not weigh near what a cubic centimeter of flesh does. > >At 1 atmosphere pressure, certainly not. However, from > >http://www.solarviews.com/eng/sun.htm > >we see that the mean density of the sun is 1.41 g/cc. The >mean density of >humans is close to 1...and that includes bones. So, this is a false >statement. > >> >> As you said, it converts chemical energy to mechanical >energy, and heat >is a >> by-product. > >OK, that's OK. > > >> >> I believe that the assuption made in the movie is that flesh was a >renewable >> resource, and could be feedstocked. There is no mention in the movie >about >> where the foodstock comes from. I presumed that in order to >create food >from >> basic elements they would need a HeeChee style food factory >(See Fredrick >> Poul's 'Gateway' and 'Beyond the Blue Event Horizon"). Can >anyone tell me >> what the name of food factory was? It was the initials of the common >> elements used in creating food. > >But, that would be much less efficient than directly burning the food >stuff. > > > > >> Regardless of the temperture, we would burn up very quickly >if is was not >> for the enzyme catalysts used in releasing the free energy from the >chemical >> reactions. Generally, as the amount of free energy goes down, >heat/entropy >> go up. My point was that there can be ways to get greater >amounts of heat >> from flesh that what is currently produced, if one plays >around with the >> enzymes used in catabolic and anabolic reactions. > >Since the maximum temp for a living human body is far less >than the maximum >temperature for a fire, this heat must be far less efficient.
But they make it up in Volume! > > >> >> Hey, I didn't write the screenplay - I am only specifying >the premise in >the >> movie of why humans over something else. > >FWIW, I wrote a backstory to explain this and posted it >several years ago. > I seriously underestimated the level of objectivity leveled at my casual topic conversations on the subject. I only wanted to provide a plausible explanation of why the robots would use humans for heat within the constraints set by the plot of the movie. Since the plot could never stand serious examination, my plausible explanations could no, as well. >Out of curiosity, since you know that this list has a lot of >scientists, >why write things that turn out to be false as if they are well >established? >Personally, I try to be very careful when I write things that might be >subject to straightforward falsification. Several of the >things you have >written are in direct contradiction with observations (i.e. >the density of >the sun.) I'm not upset or anything, I am upset. I feel like an idiot standing in the wrong line (Ummm.... Is this the line to the Dumbass Convention?). At least no one ripped me for my spelling errors ( hey, it's not my fault if the speller can't figure out how to spell words I make up!) > but I don't see writing >things like >humans are denser than the sun, when that contradicts observations. I am right on that one, if one takes the solar density at one atmosphere, as you said(IMHO and I don't want to argue about it). I am right on the whole wattage thing(IMHO and I don't want to argue about it). I have Internet sources to support many of my assertions(IMHO and I don't want to argue about it). I lost the will to show any evidence I had, after this subject had the fun pounded out of it. I should have posted the "For Entertainment Value Only" sign before initially posting. I genuinely attempt to admit when I do make a mistake. My 3 faults are not being very clear as to what I meant or in correctly repeating what I had once read/heard/been told, which is a common error of the classic layman dumbass (like myself), 2, a high propensity to bullshit (hence the "Entertainment" sign) and 3, enough IQ to be smart, but not enough seriousness to be smart. Take you pick as to what I am guilty of today, because you be right choosing 1-3. Dumbass From Hell I will calm down in about an hour or so and will regret writing such mean trash... so please do not take personally... did I mention fault 4 - I am the belligerent Nerd From Hell? > >Dan M. > > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
