Erik Reuter wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 11:55:36PM +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I know. Who am I to make these value judgements??
> 
> One of the traitor commie bastards that infests this list? :-)

:)  Thank you, Erik.

I think the problem with this thread is that some people are seeing
everything in black-and-white, or at least in sharper contrast than
others, while the others are saying, "This was good and this wasn't so
good, and it would have been NICE if *everything* had been good, and the
sooner mistakes are owned up to and corrected, the better it will be for
the Iraqi people in both the short term and the long run."  Or something
to that effect.  And refusal to acknowledge that maybe there were a
couple of things that someone dropped the ball on, or justifying the
little mistakes for the big picture, is irritating the heck out of some
others and they're voicing their irritation.

Personally, I'm glad Saddam has been deposed, but there are a few things
I'm presently not entirely happy with; I don't want to throw the baby
out with the bathwater, but I'd like to see the bathwater acknowledged,
and if it's exact volume *can* be determined, get an accurate report on
that.

(What bothers me on the whole museum-looting thing right now is that
some things in the museum were *destroyed*.  Theft which can be
recovered isn't anywhere near as bad as destruction.  And focusing on
how many artifacts are or are not missing doesn't do a damn thing about
the *destruction* that took place.  Not that my opinion is going to
*help* this discussion any right now, sigh.)

        Julia
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