--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/20/international/worldspecial/20WEAP.html?pagewanted=1&th
> 
> exert:
> 
>   In the fall, as the debate intensified over whether to have inspectors 
> return to Iraq, senior government officials continued to suggest that 
> the United States had new or better intelligence that Iraq's weapons 
> programs were accelerating � information that the United Nations lacked.
> 

Provide a transcript that does not have cridbile backing.

Alied intelegance is considered credible.

But still your missing the point. I just can't see how an intelegant person
is hoodwinked by this rediculous propoganda.

The REASON we went to war is simple. Let me lay it out for you ONE MORE TIME,
so that you might understand. 

1) Iraq attacked it's neighbor Kuait.
2) War ensued in which the US & others stoped Iraq but agreed to an end where
by weapons they could build were restricted, and inspections would be caried
out.
3) Iraq through out inspectors. (a violation which by the argeements for the
scease fire the US et. al. had every right to reingage!)
4) Iraq tried genocide.
5) US and others set up NO-Fly Zone to keep Iraq from Genocide (this policing
costs the US billions of dollars a year.)
6) Iraq advance weapons programs which were spoted by intelegance.
7) Weapon development sights were bombed.
8) Weapon development in Iraq went even further "underground".
9) 911
10) Afganistan
11) with the world in a new configuration continuing an indefinate "seig" on
Iraq is no-longer an acceptable plan. 
12) Iraq is given opertunity to end seig peacefully, by allowing inspectors
to return and coperating compleatly with inspections. A major part of which
is to declare all weapons. An amnisty for "illegal" weapons is given if only
they are declared. The result of not following this agrement ( a very
leanient one given (3)) is a reingagement of hostilities or war.
13) After Many more US troops are lined up on the Iraq border 
(see again (3)), Iraq agrees to once again allow inspections, and agrees to
be %100 forthcomeing.
14) Iraq blatantly attempts to hide weapons and weapon parts. Not the least
of which were rockets that could fly beyond the prescribed limit.
15) Since Iraq was in breach of the agrement war was once again restarted.

These are the facts. Clear and simple. The Majority of US voters understand
this, agree with it, and respect our governemnt for taking the actions they
took. The kind of WMD "they lied to us" BS comeing from the leftist
propoganda machine does nothing for the cause of the left. Instead it not
only looks rediculous, but insults the intelegants of the American voter, and
angers the american voter that such a twisting of facts would be attempted.

The fact is that there was no "debate", there was not "intensification". Our
representatives Democrat and Republican alike voted together on this issue.

The only thing that could be called an intensification was when France first
signed and agreed to the ultimatum given to Iraq, and then refused to back it
up with action (as they said they would do) when Iraq broke yet another
agreement. The only reasonable explination for their actions is the assured
loss of income they would experience from illegal buisness dealings between
their country and Iraq. Don't even get me started on Russia and illegal
~weapons~ sales such as night vission goggles.

You may post rediculous propoganda on some sites where the members have short
memories and can be perswaded easily to remember only twisted vesions of
recent history, but I would hope that here on a list full of very intelegent
people, memories are not so short, and facts are not so twisted. 

And yes you can certainly go back and fill in point (0) with:
0) The US backed Iraq and trained Iraqies to fight Iran.

But if you do you will have to also add (.33) and (.66)
.33) Iraq used chemical and biological weapons against Iran.
.66) The US stoped supporting Iraq.

get it strait. 




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