--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > No matter what laws get passed, no matter who can leagaly cary a gun and > > who > > can't Criminals will allways own and carry guns. > > > Right, and other criminals will always commit crimes, so why have any laws > at > all? > > > A much more interesting statistic would be the perentage of > > non-law-enforcement people who carry a conceled weapons who are also > > non-criminals. > > > > Personsly I would prefer there to be more non-criminals with concealed > > weapons than criminals with concealed weapons, but proponents of gun > control > > laws seem to prefer it if ONLY criminals carry weapons. > > > No we don't. We don't want anyone to have a gun who doesn't have a good > reason to have one. And we don't feel it is impossible to cut down on the > sheer > extraordinarily huge number of guns circulating in our society. Difficult, > especially given the grinding political power of the NRA, but why should it > be so > easy to buy a gun in Virginia that criminals drive down from New York to > stock > up on guns and then drive them back up to New York to sell? > > Nobody really needs a gun. Seriously.
<Soap Box> So, you would prefer the largest, and strongest to be the only ones who can weild lethal force? Or do you beleive that everyone else should practice martial arts? You are not going to change human nature with restrictive gun laws, you are only going to change the balance of power. Right now our laws are broken. Like it or not -some- humans are violent. That is just the way it is. And as long as that is the case there must be some way to level the feild. Right now our laws are broken. Guns level the feild. A big strong angry man is no match for a small frail woman with a P99-40. Give them both a gun and it's equal odds. Criminals don't like equal odds. They would rather not commit the crime than do one that has a 50-50 chance of failure. Like I said our laws are broken. Only the criminal has the wapon and they can be rather certain that most people are not carrying a gun, so they have the upper hand. It's like our laws tell them, "here are a bunch of sitting ducks, have fun! Look at all the babbies with candy!" And of course that is auful and those people are terible, but you can't run and put your head in the sand and pretend that it isn't like that. You can't pretend that we live in an evolved STTNG society. We don't! We live in a Wild West society, only now, only the bad guys have the guns. A gunless society, a society that didn't need to have power balanced would be a wonderful society to live in. But unfortunatly we don't live in such a society, we live in a society that ~Requires~ something to balance tactical power. Only, our laws have taken that away from us, our laws have shifted the balance of power to benifit the criminal. One might say that they don't want to live in a society where everyone is carrying a gun on their hip, but what would not be realized is that is the exact same society we DO live in, only the guns are hidden, and only the _chriminals_ have them ....unless you live in Texas or Nevada. A society where everyone was carrying a weapon would be a society where the week and the meek would have equal power when they walk out of their front door. It would be More peacefull and provide for More equality. I beleive that for a weaponless society to work, we must first experience have tactical equality. </Soap Box> >If you absolutely have to have one > (and > I don't know why you would), you should have to demonstrate that need, > demonstrate proper training in its use, be required to own insurance > against any > possible misuse of your gun by you or by anyone else (thus giving you a > powerful > incentive to take good care of it). > > I'm not talking about hunters or target-shooters, but they tend to be much > more responsible about taking care of their weapons than the gun nuts > symbolized > by Phil Gramm, who, when asked how many guns he had, replied, "More than I > need but not as many as I want." > > Guns are dangerous. Pure and simple. It may not be possible to get rid of > them entirely, but that should be our society's goal. Meanwhile, let's > settle for > what limitations we can get. > > > > Tom Beck > > www.prydonians.org > www.mercerjewishsingles.org > > "I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see > the > last." - Dr Jerry Pournelle > _______________________________________________ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ===== _________________________________________________ Jan William Coffey _________________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
