On 29 Sep 2003 at 20:39, The Fool wrote:

> > From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:28:19AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 11:44  pm, Erik Reuter wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Good point, very true. Of course, one could also wear false
> > > >fingerprints. The problem of quickly and accurately identifying
> people
> > > >is a difficult one, and one that likely won't be solved soon.
> > > 
> > > They could use those chips they put in pets... with a bit of
> crypto-key 
> > > stuff and whatever since the pet ones aren't designed to be
> > > secure...
> > 
> > How do you get people to consent to have chip implants? And if they
> > don't consent, how do you keep them from removing them?
> 
> You put the chips in their clothes, their money, their tires, their
> keys, their food packaging, their car parts, their phones, and you
> make it so these chips can't be removed or disabled without destroying
> the product they purchased.  2005 is the year mandated for the Euro to
> have imbedded RFID chips in all new Euros.  Cell phones and some new
> cars have mandatory GPS responders.  All new tires have RFID chips
> embedded in them.  New cars require keys with RFID chips in them. 
> Clothes stores are putting chips in clothing.
> 
> Fight the Future.

Please so. You're burning yourself uselessly against progress. I find 
it funny.

In todays world, these techs WILL come in. USE them, DO something 
with them. Come up with your own techs. But trying to turn back the 
clock puts you in the same category, for me, as the treehugger 
greens.

RFID chips are too small to EMP shield. I for one have a device which 
can burn em out, constructed from common-as-heck components. People 
WILL return dead products if they rely on RFID, constantly, because 
if you say put em on most monitors, they'd burn out.

RFID itself isn't robust enough. Other RFID-like techs might be in 
the future. We'll see...

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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