On 31 Oct 2003 at 21:28, William T Goodall wrote:

> 
> On 31 Oct 2003, at 20:59, Jan Coffey wrote:
> 
> >
> > --- William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 31 Oct 2003, at 17:29, Andrew Crystall wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 31 Oct 2003 at 15:19, William T Goodall wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=religion
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4. "A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or
> >>>>> conscientious devotion."
> >>>>
> >>>> You realize that is a figurative usage as in 'baseball was his
> >>>> religion' and not actually about religion qua religion?
> >>>
> >>> I don't accept that,
> >
> > You don't accept that the use of the word "religion", or that the
> > intent was that use?
> >
> >> You don't accept that you are mistaken about this usage?
> >>
> >>> sorry.
> >>
> >> But you are sorry - for what?
> >>
> >>>  I'm perfectly willing to argue that many
> >>> people in these days worship capitalism as a religion, quite
> >>> seriously.
> >>
> >> That would be a non sequitur.
> >
> > No it isn't.
> >
> 
> It is actually. First Andrew argued that the definition 'A cause,
> principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion'
> meant religion qua religion and was not a figurative usage of the
> word.
> 
> Then he said " I'm perfectly willing to argue that many people in
> these days worship capitalism as a religion, quite seriously."
> 
> Now it seems to me that for this to make any sense he must mean 
> something other than "I'm perfectly willing to argue that many people
> in these days pursue capitalism with zeal, quite seriously."
> 
> But if he does mean something different than that, then he is using a
> different definition of religion than the one he used in the first
> paragraph.
> 
> Hence it is a non sequitur.

Why? Because I'm attacking something YOU believe in for a change?
There's no non sequitur here except you on the defensive.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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