--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:37:36AM -0800, Gautam
> Mukunda wrote:
> 
> > Well, I don't actually think that holding people
> who were fighting
> > against the United States prisoner _is_ wrong.
> 
> Exactly my point. How you can justify holding anyone
> without a fair
> trial and access to a lawyer is incredible.

Because we are _at war_.  We didn't give German POWs
trials.  We didn't give North Korean POWs trials.  We
were _at war_.  These people were captured _on the
battlefield_.  Because they weren't declared
combatants, they actually have _fewer_ rights than
POWs.

> > differ on this issue.  But it seems to me that the
> first (Ruby
> > Ridge, if anyone doesn't know what we are
> obliquely discussing) -
> > assassinating American citizens - is considerably
> worse than the
> > second - holding _non-Americans_ prisoner.  Yet,
> oddly enough, we
> > get hysterical condemnations of the second, and
> not a mention of the
> > first.  Let's just say that I think that's
> noticeable.
> 
> I'd say some incredible discrimination is noticable.
> All of them are
> human.
> 

> Erik Reuter   http://www.erikreuter.net/

Yet the American government is supposed to worry about
the rights of _Americans_ first.  That's its job.  I
suppose that you, Erik, would have nice public trials
on all of these guys, with lawyers, and published
transcripts, and maybe the names and faces of CIA
informants published?  That's what a full trial would
require, after all.

=====
Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Freedom is not free"
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com

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