----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: christian dreams of murder...

> So, Erik, be a reasonable person.  How would you deal
> with the problem?  I have a solution - military
> tribunals.  Those are better than the people in
> Guantanamo have a right to.

Maybe not in all cases.  One of the problems the government appears to be
having in going to trials is that there isn't enough evidence on a lot of
the people.  So, its quite possible that there are still some people
detained who really deserve a fair trial and to be allowed to go home after
being found not guilty.


They are better than
> North Korean prisoners got in the 1950s (note, btw,
> that Congress did not declare war then - just so you
> know).  They are actually very fair, with extensive
> safeguards for the accused.  They are supported by
> legal scholars like Stuart Taylor, and, I believe,
> Akhil Ammar (not sure about that thought).  They are,
> interestingly enough, what the Administration has
> proposed.

Yes and no.  I've seen Rumsfeld state that no trials are needed....they can
be held indefinately without trial until the war on terror ends. The
problems with this, compared to a war like WWII, are obvious I think.  The
war on terror will not end until there are virtually no more terrorists.
So, the Rumsfeld is claiming the right to hold people without trial
indefinitely.

Dan M.


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