--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > we are neither legally nor morally obligated to do > and > > Of course we are morally obligated to extend human > rights to humans. > That you consistently deny this is very sad. > > > -- > Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/
See Erik, a key difference between you and me is I tend to say things like "reasonable people can differ on this issue" and you don't. Reasonable people can differ on this issue. I'm not sure you _are_ at this moment in time - you're not talking like one. But I'm open to being convinced. Actually being civil would be a start. As someone with training in political philosophy, I'm quite skeptical of the concept of human rights. I believe in natural rights. I believe in civil rights. Human rights? Not sure about those. In either case, again, I don't believe that anyone has the right to try to kill me. And I believe that I _do_ have the right to try to protect myself from them. So, Erik, be a reasonable person. How would you deal with the problem? I have a solution - military tribunals. Those are better than the people in Guantanamo have a right to. They are better than North Korean prisoners got in the 1950s (note, btw, that Congress did not declare war then - just so you know). They are actually very fair, with extensive safeguards for the accused. They are supported by legal scholars like Stuart Taylor, and, I believe, Akhil Ammar (not sure about that thought). They are, interestingly enough, what the Administration has proposed. But that appears to not be good enough for you. _So suggest something_. A trial would involve compromising our intelligence sources and surely would lead to the deaths of many people bravely trying to protect the United States. Perhaps that doesn't mean anything to you - I'm not sure. What would you do about it? ===== Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Freedom is not free" http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
