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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryon Daly
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 01:01 PM
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> Subject: RE: Saddam not captured, but liberated?
> 
> 
> Yes, I did read it.  At least twice.  The article suggests 
> that the US 
> wouldn't want to get Saddam through using a tip-off, for 
> reason of national 
> pride.  I mention the money because it is proof that the US 
> *was* willing to 
> use a tip-off to get the sons, and quite publicly discussed 
> it, which I 
> don't think would be significantly different on the 
> national-pride thing.

*suggests* but doesn't posit that as a sole reason.

> >Further.. hell yeah, I'd negotiate the reward money if I was a 
> >low-level
> >flunky in Dr Evil's empire. You bet your ass I wouldn't 
> accept a check, and 
> >cash?  Forget it!  You think I'd live more than about 2 
> minutes after 
> >driving a car out of the US Embassy loaded with $25M in $100 bills
> 
> I rather imagined a free ticket to the US, England, or 
> wherever else they 
> wanted would be included, and that the money would safely be 
> deposited in 
> any bank of the tipster's choice.   And while the tipsters 
> might not want to 
> trust us, we had already demonstrated that we were willing to 
> make good on the money promise, with the sons' tipster.

I would definately want passage out of Iraq if I turned in the boss.. but not in a 
Stryker or a helicopter ^_^

> >(do you understand exactly how BULKY even $1M in $100 bills is?
> >http://www.cockeyed.com/inside/million/million.html )
> 
> Yes I do.  I worked in the high-security bulk/coin teller 
> area of a bank 
> headquarters.  I've wheeled carts around containing $4-5 
> million in cash and 
> seen piles of $20-50 million.  It is actually surprisingly, almost 
> disappointingly, small, when you see it.  

I don't think so at all;  most Americans see small briefcases of millions and millions 
of dollars "here is zee suitcase with zee $10 Meel-yon dough-lahrs, meester Bond.."  
..so actually seeing even $2M is impressive (and yeah, I've seen multiple millions 
myself, in person at poker tournements.. hell, I was impressed ^_^)

> side note: $1 
> million was stolen from that area just a few weeks after I 
> left the job!  
> They never caught anyone for it, even though access to the area was 
> restricted to at most about a dozen people, and the place was 
> littered with 
> cameras.  I have my suspicions about who did it, though.)

Wasn't that right before you bought that house and the Hummer? ;)

> >Yeah, they'll just head down to the local Money Tree or 
> other Pay-Day 
> >Loan
> >company and cash that puppy...
> 
> No, of course not, as I say above.  I was just being a bit 
> flippant - the giant check would be for PR purposes.

Heh.. giant check.. the first thing I thougth was they'd bring out a giant fake check 
like at the end of golf tournaments...

> >They didn't.  The AK-47s were above ground, and the Pentagon has 
> >quickly
> >yet quietly backed away from the story that Saddam had a pistol.
> 
> The article states "Left with him were two AK-47 assault guns 
> and a pistol". 
>   I haven't seen anything about this and even read a bried 
> blurb about one 
> of the Iraqi CPA leaders asking Saddam why he didn't use his 
> pistol (I don't 
> remember the exact reply, but it wasn't "I didn't have a 
> pistol").   Do you 
> have a link to any news articles about him having no pistol?

I'll dig a little; juan cole or instapundit or buzzflash had it (my "liberal" 
sources)..I distinctly remember it was a left-leaning source, though, because it was 
tucked in with other "liberal" items..

> >Lovely.  Did we do the work ourselves, or is this how some 
> unspecified 
> >3rd
> >country is
> >participating in the Coalition?
> 
> You seem to be assuming that "hard" interrogation means 
> torture.  Do you 
> think that there are no acceptable strong means of 
> interrogation that don't involve torture?

Don't be absurd.  Of course I know that.

-j-
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