> From: Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Well depend which gospel you read doesn't it? They > > say different things. > > Also where is the proof that this so-called Yeshua > > ever lived? > > See Josephus _The Jewish Revolt_. Josephus was a jew > (IIRC a slave) of IIRC Valentinian who comissioned him > to write about the above topic. I think its a reliable > source as Josephus would have nothing to gain from it, > being both a Jew and a Roman slave. He additionally > wrote this a mere 30 to 40 years after the death of > Jesus, at a time when Christianity was not popular in > any way, shape or form.
Imagine if the First records of Abraham Lincoln came 35 years after he supposedly lived / Died. And imagine if the First records of the Civil War and Imancipatiom of slaves were found 90 to 100 years after he supposedly died. There were 'chistians' Well before the period of time that myth has coalesced around as when this So-Called yeshua lived. Josephus was also a turncoat and wrote what was expediant for Josephus to stay alive. Also some articles I have read suggest that Josephus works were Redacted somewhat by later people. > Damon. > > > Nope. But that is _not_ what the bible says. > > That's what that whole > > original sin thing / jebus ransom is all about isn't > > it? About dog > > punishing all of adams descendants for adams sins? > > Just take a look at > > these verses: Ex 20:5-6; 34:7d > > Again a literal interpretation. Try looking at it as > allegorical rather than literal, like Aesop's fables. > What do you think the message actually is? What > lession is the author trying to teach? I was explaining how right-wingist view it, not how I view it. I find it hard to come up with a good allegory for hereditary guilt. Hereditary Slavery? Hereditary debt? The inverse is the Divine Right of Kings, which is equally noxious. It goes against what I believe in, namely that people are innocent until proven guilty by a jury of their peers. > Actually try thinking about it critically, rather than > quipping a hackneyed response. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
