Gautam Mukunda wrote:

> More on point, that's a big except.  "On the Jewish
> Question" would be another pretty big except.  And I
> don't think that the Communist Manifesto is that
> different from what else of his work I've read, to be
> honest.  Fundamentally it's Marx's rejection of
> _liberalism_ that is the root of his problems, and
> that traces back to Rousseau, of course (sorry
> Stanley).  But that is what I mean by the inevitable
> outgrowth of his work.  Philosophers who embraced
> liberal ideals of limits on government (not
> necessarily whom you might think - Hobbes, for
> example, was arguably the single most important figure
> in the development of the difference between private
> and public spheres) are clearly different from those
> who do not.  Marx was probably the most immediate
> (although not the most important - again, Rousseau) of
> the modern political philosophers who rejected the
> tenets of liberalism - and the rejection of liberalism
> is what brought the horrors of the Soviet Union about,
> in the end.

Can you recommend reading by Rousseau and Hobbes?  I haven't read any
Hobbes, and the only Rousseau I've read is his _Confessions_ (which
paint a picture of a *horrible* person, IMO).

        Julia
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