From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:03:11 -0600
----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:26 AM Subject: Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica
> > >From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica > >Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:52:16 -0600 > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:36 AM > > > > > >Subject: Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:14:15 -0600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it's relevance has diminished over time, then it can't be > >that > > > >important. > > > > > As opposed to the likes of "Iron Man" or "Paranoid" of course, > >which > > > >have > > > > > not faded in any way. > > > > > > > >Those have faded in relavence also. You must not be exposed to > >people > > > >who are really into Zepplin. > > > > > > If you mean that they don't get as much radio play as Justin > >Timberlake, > > > then I can't disagree with you. But musicians, particularly of the > >Heavy > > > Metal ilk, cite those songs along with others as being very > >influential to > > > themselves. Whereas "Communication Breakdown" is lost in translation > >so to > > > speak. > > > >Zepplin had influence over a broader spectrum of musicians for sure. > >Thats why one would say that Zepplin was more influential than > >Sabbath. But Sabbath does hold a special place with the Metal crowd, > >not because Sabbath was specifically Metal, but because most Metal > >bands desired the "dark" sound that Sabbath epitomized. > > Sure. But you cited "Communication Breakdown" as being influential in metal. > Something that I don't really see. At the very least, not as much as say, > some Sabbath songs. >
OK, I see what you are looking for now. Consider the proposition that Sabbath's Symptom Of The Universe (from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath I think) is little more than a Sabbatized version of Communication Breakdown.
Of course lots of bands have covered the song itself, Black Crowes, Iron Maiden, GNR, and others.
GNR? I think not. And I doubt that they would have covered it without me knowing. They did however, cover "It's Allright".
> > > > > > > > > >Aerosmith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the greatest Rock bandsever. Tyler is an amazing > > > >vocalist. > > > > > > > > > > > >Joe Perry is one of the best at inventing guitar hooks. Really > > > > > >oustanding at times. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, Perry himself admits that he's not a "guitarists guitarist", > >but > > > >to > > > > > brand him as "one of the best at inventing guitar > > > >hooks"...ah...no... > > > > > > > >Guitar "hooks" have very little to do with a players quality. > > > >Perry is a "good" guitarist, but not a great one. What he does have > >is > > > >an exceptional ear for a catchy guitar phrase, hence my comment. > > > > > > I dislike the use of the word "exceptional". I don't think it > >applies to Joe > > > in the least. > > > >I refer you to virtually *all* of Toys In The Attic. > > You will not get me in agreement with you on this score Robert! Unless you > were to rephrase a few things... >
Well....an "exceptional ear" doesn't require that flashy pyrotechnics appear on any albums, just good riffage if a guy has good mechanics.
xponent News At Eleven Maru rob
Of course. But Joe Perry still sucks. He doesn't have good mechanics (especially not RIFFAGE). Besides, Aerosmiths' songs are more of an entire song-based package, rather than a display of good guitar (which YES doesn't require "flashy pyrotechnics" as that over the top stuff can get a little boring). You want a good guitarist, with good mechanics, that's not flashy/trashy, and just may have an exceptional ear? Mark Knopfler.
-Travis "all this talk of Joe Perry has me in Dire Straits" Edmunds
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