At 12:42 AM 3/7/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote:
>> At 10:26 PM 3/6/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote:
>> >> At 09:38 PM 3/6/2004 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
>> >> >There are a number of Texans who make a big deal out of Texas
>> >having
>> >> >been a sovereign nation before it was a state, and maybe this
>> >pledge
>> >> >thing fits in with that mindset.
>> >>
>> >> I suspect that this thing has as much to do with "Lost Cause
>> >Confederacy"
>> >> as anything else.
>> >
>> >Absolutely not!
>> >Thats a completely different issue and one that has less strength
>in
>> >Texas than elsewhere.
>>
>> Gautam and Dan are the "Lost Cause" experts, but to the extent that
>I have
>> encountered the modern incarnation of "Lost Cause Theory" it has
>been based
>> on the idea that each States retains its individual sovereignty, and
>indeed
>> should and aught to have the right to secede from the Union at any
>time.
>> Again, in many ways similar to envisioning the United States as
>being more
>> similar to The European Union than as a proper "country." It
>seems to
>> me that a pledge to the State of Texas of designed to reinforce the
>notion
>> that Texas remains a sovereign entity, that should and aught to have
>had
>> the right to secede whenever it wanted, and that it is analogous to
>the UK
>> within the European Union.
>>
>
>I figure you missed the point of my previous message.
>
>Texas is the ***only*** nation to have become a state. It was never a
>territory or area that was previously claimed by the US. It was not
>conquered territory. It was a country.
>
>That is the root of Texas' prideful character. It has nothing to do
>with the Civil War.
No, I totally understood.
First off,Texas is not the "only" such State. Hawaii was also an
independent country. As were, arguably, each of the original 13 States.
More to the point, however, I believe that the obsession among certain
Texans with Texas' former status is a direct result of "Lost Cause" logic,
and a means of post facto justification for secession.
JDG
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