----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Pledge of Allegence
> "John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > First off,Texas is not the "only" such State. Hawaii was also an > > independent country. As were, arguably, each of the original 13 States. > > Did Hawaii become part of the US by treaty? Or the 13 States by > treaty? The 13 states decided it was in their best interest to form the > United States in a unique experiment. I think Hawaii was taken by > force, but I don't remember my history well enough to say for sure. > Texas joined the already-existing US under a treaty, and that treaty > gave it certain rights as a state that other states didn't have. (I > doubt that the right to split into several states will be exercised > anytime in the near future, though!) Actually there was no treaty annexing Texas. There was a "Joint Resolution" http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/annexation/march1845.html and an "Annexation Ordinance" http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/annexation/4july1845.html This is where those "Republic Of Texas" weirdos come in. They claim the annexation of Texas was illegal and unconstitutional ecause there was no treaty. They have lost every legal battle they have fought. > > > More to the point, however, I believe that the obsession among certain > > Texans with Texas' former status is a direct result of "Lost Cause" logic, > > and a means of post facto justification for secession. > > Maybe among a minority, but I know a number of Texans who take pride in > these special things about the state and who think that secession was a > bad idea. > > The majority of Texans are proud of the way Texas became a state, and > proud of its unique history, without taking pride in its secession or > dwelling on its unique status as justification for secession. > Thank you Julia. We tend to ignore the secession. We know it happened but generally try to forget about it in the sense that we don't dwell on it the way some Southerners do. Interesting factoid, Texas was still at war with the union in 1866 and fought battles after the war actually ended. News traveled slowly and unreliably in those times. xponent Goliad Maru rob _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
