From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Terrorists Win in Spain
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:06:06 -0500

Doug,

You mention that while a majority of the worlds democracies supported the
war in Iraq, many of their peoples did not.   Yet, is this not an argument
in my favor about the strength of our coalition?     With the mild
exception of Switzerland, every modern democracy in the world sets policy
through elected representative rather than by referendum, in large part for
precisely this kind of reason.   If so many democratically elected leaders,
like Jose Maria Aznar, were willing to risk their jobs and going against
the will their people because they believed that this war was so important?

That does not indicate "strength of the coalition", it indicates that those elected politicians don't give a rat's ass about what their constituency wants.


Indeed, for the most part, the worst Yugoslavia was
accused of was "ethnic cleansing" - essentially forcible deportations,  but
there is little to no evidence of serious genocide.

http://balkansnet.org/ethnicl.html :
"More than two hundred thousands civilians have been killed in Bosnia and Croatia since the beginning of the war. Tens of thousands of women were raped, some of them more than a hundred times, while their sons and husbands were beaten and tortured in concentration camps like Omarska and Manjaca. Millions lost their homes due to a process called "ethnic cleansing.""


So, John, >200k civilian deaths is "little to no evidence" for you? Then how many civilians should have been killed before you accept that ethnic cleansing happened? Couple of millions?

<much snippin'>

****Given the above evidence Doug, how could you *possibly* conclude that
Iraq had no WMD's?*******

Well, there is that teensy-weensy little matter of the US not being able to actually *find* those stockpiles of WMD's...


JD

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