> From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> At 10:57 AM 3/16/2004 -0600 Horn, John wrote:
> >The issue here in many people's minds is given what we've learned
> >about the intelligence, folks don't think that Bush "believed it
to
> >be true".  That it was a convenient story to get what he wanted.

> 
> My, how far have we come from four years ago when Bush's 
> critics thought
> that he was too dumb to come up with any original thoughts 
> beyond what he
> was told.    Now, of course, he is a very clever manipulator of
the US
> intelligence services.

Not a manipulator of the intelligence services, a manipulator of the
US public and public opinion.  Very different things.

> I don't see how you can possibly argue that that statement is
> "impeachable", when in fact it is 100% accurate.   British 
> intelligence
> services did and do say that.    

I never said it was.  I was merely making a point that the defense
that Bush wasn't lieing because he believed it to be true might not
completely hold water.

  - jmh
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