Doug Pensinger wrote:
> 
> David wrote:
> 
> > I never read this one, so I resisted the temptation to rate it
> > "useless".
> 
> You were tempted to rate a book you haven't read?

Yes, to knock it down in the rankings.  But that would be dishonest.

> 
> I did rate the C.S. Lewis books, _Perlandra_ etc,
> > as "useless".  Mentioning other planets does not make an
> > allegory into science fiction.  (Similarly for _Animal Farm_.)
> 
> Mentioning?  Out of the Silent Planet was set on Mars, Peralandra on
> Venus.  Most of the science was ridiculous by today’s standards but the
> creation of alien species to tell a story, however allegorical, is really
> the reason these books are classified as s.f.

"Science"?  Including classical science fiction elements does
not make a story "science fiction" to me.  They have to be used
according to a rigorous internal logic.  (I note no one is
defending _Animal Farm_.)
 
> William will add books to the list as they are suggested - I believe
> that's how most, if not all of the books listed got there.

O.K..  But it doesn't have to be an encyclopedic listing.  
I noticed Greg Bear's _Slant_ wasn't there, but don't care,
because many of his other books are.

                                        ---David
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