On 1 Jun 2004, at 11:18 pm, Robert Seeberger wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
On 1 Jun 2004, at 1:42 pm, David Hobby wrote:
"Science"? Including classical science fiction elements does not make a story "science fiction" to me. They have to be used according to a rigorous internal logic.
So you agree that 'Star Wars' isn't science fiction then?
Sadly, I think it is. The story does not need to be logically developed, as long as the universe it is set in is.
Star Wars is High Heroic Fantasy dressed up in Skiffy Drag. Note: That is not "Science Fiction Drag"! *That* incorporates something resembling science, which Star Wars contains not one iota of.
It's comic book space opera. Like _Barbarella_ or _The Fifth Element_. Nothing wrong with that, but it only resembles sf in borrowing some of the look and feel. Of course that is enough to make it sf under some definitions... if it rolls off your back like a duck it probably quacks too :)
Perdido Street Station is a Fantasy dressed up in Science Fiction Drag.
Well, it's sort of in the steampunk zone. Tim Powers' _The Anubis Gates_ is in similar territory and it won the Philip K Dick Memorial Award for science fiction.
Star Trek is SciFI dressed up in Science Fiction Drag.
(Skiffy = SciFi)
Sometimes Star Trek is sf, and most times it just imitates it imho.
If you think of sf as an umbrella term that covers speculative fiction, science fantasy, space opera, scifi, steampunk, cyberpunk, slipstream, hard sf and whatnot then all of the above are certainly sf.
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