----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: KEP part 2 L3


> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 02:28:45PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 2:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: KEP part 2 L3
> >
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 01:44:31PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:23 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: KEP part 2 L3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 01:22:06PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > God, ... are subject to neither emperical comfirmation or
> > > > > > falsification.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well isn't that special.
> > > >
> > > > No, its been well known for years
> > >
> > > Brainwashing strikes again!
> >
> > Uh-huh.  Reading a variety of different philosophies and understanding
the
> > assumptions of various camps is just brainwashing.   :-)
>
> Just keep telling yourself that. Unless you'd care to present some data
> about god, or admit it is just a figment of your imagination. I'm not
> talking about free will or anything else you tried to divert the issue
> with. I'm talking about god.

Hmmm, looking at other things in the same catagory is diverting attention?
Why is it OK to accept some things without emperical evidence and not
others?  Why is consistancy a bad thing?

>And your neat little insistence that no
> data is necessary or possible about the existence of this figment.

Uh-huh, just like no data is necessary or possible concerning your
self-awareness.  But, talking about that is diverting, because you believe
in it. :-)



> Could it be? Is your computer screen red?

No.  I'll freely admit there is no emperical proof that God exists, just as
there is no emperical proof that free will, human rights, your
self-awareness exists as something independant. If you supply an example of
an experiment that could either falsify or verify any of those, then I'd be
more than happy to look at it.

But, if I understand you correctly, since you believe in some of those,
they aren't figments.  Those you don't believe in, are figments.  Your
criterion for truth and falsehood is your belief system.  Agree with
Erik==true.  Don't agree with Erik==false.

Forgive me if I don't consider myself deluded for not agreeing with your
belief system.

Dan M.


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