----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Which beliefs are labled real; which are labled figments


> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 03:48:27PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
>
> > OK, trying to go through your posts like a puzzle to obtain
> > information you delight in not providing clearly, it appears you don't
> > believe things exist without empirical proof, but its not irrational
> > to do so.
>
> I realize it is difficult for a brainwashed person to follow -- I am
> truly sorry that you have been victimized by religion.



> Is there any empirical evidence that could cause you to reconsider the
> existence of a god? Can there be no change, no improvement?
>
> Rationality is defined in a number of dictionaries. But you knew that.

Uh-huh.  The one that I thought relevant to this discussion was:


The capacity for logical, rational, and analytic thought; intelligence.

Proof by insult usually does not constitution rational, if one uses this
definition.  Rather, one looks to precisely explain one's axioms; one uses
logic to deduce theorems from the axioms; one checks those theorems to see
if A and ~A can both be proven from the same set of axioms, etc.

I've tried hard to be clear.  You've tried hard to be insulting.  I guess
it just shows the different priorities we have for discussions.

Dan M.


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