Gautam, et al,

When WalMart moves into a community, it sells a lot
of stuff.  It sells a lot of things more cheaply than
anyone else could do it.  This has two wonderful
effects.  It allows people to buy stuff that they
couldn't otherwise afford (employing more people
making it, etc.). And it allows them to spend more
money on _other things_ (again, employing more people
mkaing it, selling it, etc.)

Typical supply-side tripe.

Unfortunately, the "people making it" find themselves
in increasingly dire straits as a result of doing
business with Wal-Mart, which /requires/ that its
suppliers lower their prices to Wal-Mart every year or
face replacement by even-more-desperate competitors.
Suppliers are forced to open their books to Wal-Mart
analysts, who insist that the companies cut
"unnecessary" costs, such as using union labor.

For more information about the way the company's
suppliers treat /their/ employees, see the National
Labor Committee's report "Toys of Misery"
<http://www.nlcnet.org/campaigns/he-yi/he-yi.shtml>.

All WalMart has done is figured out a bunch of ways
to do this more cheaply than anyone else has.

Whether you think of this as a good thing or not depends on whether you think that the company's policies are ethical. As it turns out, drug cartels have also figured out a bunch of ways to "do this" more cheaply than anyone else has, too. By your logic, we should be praising the efficiency of drug lords.

Truth: A company guidebook for supervisors reads,
"Wal-Mart is opposed to unionization... You, as a manager,
are expected to support the company’s position.... This
may mean walking a tightrope between legitimate
campaigning and improper conduct." Basically, squash
unionization attempts, just don't get caught. When
meat-cutters in a Texas Wal-Mart store voted to join
the UFCW, the company just eliminated their jobs, and
started selling pre-packaged meats.

It's literally no different than me inventing that
widget I talked about that can manufacture cars more
cheaply.  If you would think that's a good thing, then
you should think WalMart's a good thing.

No, I shouldn't.

Abusing workers and muscling suppliers is not "a widget,"
it's "a racket."

For what it is worth I was wrong here. WalMart
employess who work 32hrs/wk *are* eligible for
insurance. Bad information on my part and
bad interpretation of what I was told otherwise.

Nonetheless, only something like only 38% of Wal-Mart employees actually have insurance. Apparently, the high premiums price it out of reach of many. Which is not to say that cheapness on the company's part is the only factor that contributes to this low participation rate. For all I know, most employees are married to someone who already has insurance.

Good for them.  Who cares where the health insurance
comes from, as long as it's there?

Lots of people do: look how many people got their knickers in a knot when the Clintons proposed Canadian-style national insurance.

The irony occurs to me that WalMart constantly wraps
itself in the American flag, yet keeps it's employees
as poor as possible. Eventually this may undo their model.

I don't think they do that, that's the thing. I think they pay what the market will bear, and get cheap goods to people who need them. The first is morally neutral, the second morally positive. If you _don't like_ what the market will bear (and I've _never_ said that I do), then I've already proposed one change that would help a lot (immigration reform). A second would be further expanding the EITC.

The EITC is nothing more than government-funded underwriting of companies who refuse to pay a decent wage. YOU and I are forced to make up for the meagerness of the salaries that companies like Wal-Mart pay. If you /really/ believe in "the invisible hand of the market," then let Wal-Mart pay a salary that doesn't force people to apply for EITC.

But don't blame WalMart for doing what a business is
supposed to do as well or better than any business in
history.

You know, it's just possible that there are people on this big wide earth who would be willing to eat shit in order to put food on their children's table. And if there was some company somewhere that had a lot of shit to dispose of, would you praise them for finding more minimum-wage shit-eaters than the next company?

I cannot accept that Wal-Mart is doing "what a business
is supposed to do" as long as we have to define "what
a business is supposed to do" as "grind people and
suppliers down to squeeze every last dime out of them.

... when WalMart does what it does, it creates a huge
amount of wealth.

Which is why S. Robson Walton is worth more than Bill Gates.

Oh, enough of this. I have to create some economic value
here.

Dave

All That Glitters is Not Gold Maru
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