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From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: indeterminacy, chaos, and complexity -L3


> Dan Minette wrote:
> > One of the things that I would like to do is break the cycle of
> > repeated arguments, that tend to exist after mostly the same people
> > cover mostly the same territory.  One thought I had was triggered by
> > the use of the word "rational" in several posts.  I started thinking
> > about framing the argument in terms of axiomatic systems, seeing
> what
> > is derived from various sets of axioms, and what just appears to be
> > derived from a casual use of the axioms.
>
> Maybe I am just dense, but I cannot see what the above paragraph had
> to do with the balance of the post.

I am setting up several axioms in several posts.  I will then use those
axioms.

> > Well, this post has gotten long while giving us just one axiom.
> But,
> > I think it helps lay the groundwork for explaining my thinking.  I'd
> > welcome any critique of this analysis.
> >
> And I didn't see what I would clearly identify as *the* axiom.

This gives us a rule for the use of complexity.  Complexity can result in
phenomena that are counter-intuitive to one who just thinks in general
about basic principals.  Complexity cannot result in phenomena that are at
odds with the basic principals.



> Maybe you are doing this in reverse?!?
> It might be easier to understand if you stated your axioms first and
> then explained and analysed them in individual posts.

I'll have another post with a couple more axioms shortly.

Dan M.


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