----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:50 PM Subject: Re: indeterminacy, chaos, and complexity -L3
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: indeterminacy, chaos, and complexity -L3 > > > > Dan Minette wrote: > > > One of the things that I would like to do is break the cycle of > > > repeated arguments, that tend to exist after mostly the same people > > > cover mostly the same territory. One thought I had was triggered by > > > the use of the word "rational" in several posts. I started thinking > > > about framing the argument in terms of axiomatic systems, seeing > > what > > > is derived from various sets of axioms, and what just appears to be > > > derived from a casual use of the axioms. > > > > Maybe I am just dense, but I cannot see what the above paragraph had > > to do with the balance of the post. > > I am setting up several axioms in several posts. I will then use those > axioms. Alright, Then I will just have to start out a bit lost and hope it comes together for me later.<G> > > > > Well, this post has gotten long while giving us just one axiom. > > But, > > > I think it helps lay the groundwork for explaining my thinking. I'd > > > welcome any critique of this analysis. > > > > > And I didn't see what I would clearly identify as *the* axiom. > > This gives us a rule for the use of complexity. Complexity can result in > phenomena that are counter-intuitive to one who just thinks in general > about basic principals. Complexity cannot result in phenomena that are at > odds with the basic principals. *That* I can follow. I'll go back and read your original post with that in mind. > > > Maybe you are doing this in reverse?!? > > It might be easier to understand if you stated your axioms first and > > then explained and analysed them in individual posts. > > I'll have another post with a couple more axioms shortly. > Well.....I'm not criticizing your method or methodology, just trying to figure out why I wasn't getting what you were trying to convey. xponent Slogging Maru rob _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
