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From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Peaceful change L3


> On Apr 17, 2005, at 7:32 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
>
>> Lincoln's last great speech, and the one that seems to have best
>> expressed his intentions, says it best - "With malice towards none, 
>> with
>> charity for all, _with firmess in the right as God gives us to see 
>> the
>> right_, let us strive on to finish the work we are in..."
>>
>> With firmness in the right.
>
> "... as God gives us to see the right."
>
> This elision is telling, and is for me the crux of the problem.
>
> Too often, we fail to remember that we only see so far, that our
> certainties are only so certain.
>
>> Lincoln contained multitudes, but none of those multitudes can 
>> plausibly
>> be enlisted in an argument that we should sit on our hands in the 
>> face
>> of great evil.
>
> And this is a result of that failure: the oversimplification of 
> complex
> issues. Who, is it -- citations, please -- is arguing that we should 
> sit
> on our hands in the face of great evil?
>
> While I've certainly heard you, Gautam, and others making the claim 
> that
> Nick has made that argument, I haven't seen him or anyone else argue 
> that
> inaction was the solution.
>
> I see a pattern here:
>
> Urge cautious language and be accused of cowardice and/or pretense.
>
> Urge cautious action and stand accused of inaction.
>
> Isn't the world more complex than this?
>
It is.
And some of those who warned us about binary thinking on this list in 
years past are practicing it today.

xponent
Continuum Maru
rob 


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